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The Argent Dragon 02-15-2008 05:36 PM

SPAM and other canned meats...
 
Anyone stocking 'SPAM' in their preps ?

http://www.candacegustine.com/blogimages/spam.jpg

TechGuy 02-15-2008 05:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Argent Dragon (Post 969856)
Anyone stocking 'SPAM' in their preps ?

http://www.candacegustine.com/blogimages/spam.jpg

When mankind managed to destroy itself, all that will be left for the aliens to find will be still edible cans of spam.

My wife refuses to let me to buy spam in her presence, so I will have to stock up on my own. I kind of like it in a weird..i like mre type way.

Merlin 02-15-2008 06:09 PM

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The manufacturer acknowledges that, even though the cans have a "best used by" date on the bottom, the shelf life is indefinite -- essentially forever. I think it's a great sources of calories and protein in a SHTF situation and have begun to accumulate cans of spam, much as I do Krugerrands :)

I also have stocked cans of chicken breast and can confirm that they're still fine (which is to say, not nearly as good as fresh product) even 2 years out-of-date.

Gold Rules 02-15-2008 06:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Merlin (Post 969901)
The manufacturer acknowledges that, even though the cans have a "best used by" date on the bottom, the shelf life is indefinite -- essentially forever. I think it's a great sources of calories and protein in a SHTF situation and have begun to accumulate cans of spam, much as I do Krugerrands :)


Yesterday ..........was .........a.........Very good year.......:D

Merlin 02-15-2008 06:18 PM

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And before anyone launches a rant on how unhealthy spam may be, I want you to know that I have cans of Crisco stored too. Purchased in the large, all-metal cans, Crisco too has an indefinite (forever) shelf life. When going hungry is the alternative, I doubt I'll be much worried about a little saturate/trans fat.

AMforPM 02-15-2008 06:23 PM

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We actually like the food-like Spam used seldom and fried crispy. We also put away any canned ham we can find. It is not exactly well stocked in stores.

But for sure Spam is a weird and not healthy food, with a weird taste. We both feel a little guilty when we have Spam and eggs and toast, or spam sandwiches with lots of mustard. In an emergency it would be spam and grits or instant potatoes. With a garden it might be Spam in a rice and veggie stir fry.

TechGuy 02-15-2008 06:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Merlin (Post 969914)
And before anyone launches a rant on how unhealthy spam may be, I want you to know that I have cans of Crisco stored too. Purchased in the large, all-metal cans, Crisco too has an indefinite (forever) shelf life. When going hungry is the alternative, I doubt I'll be much worried about a little saturate/trans fat.

Where did you find large metal cans? I have been looking and all I can find is plastic. I really want the metal.

Gotta season those beans with something, gotta put some kind of grease in that pan!

Merlin 02-15-2008 06:24 PM

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�Each place in the world seems to have its signature food festival. You may have heard about tomatoes, ribs, onions or pumpkins, but you have never seen anything like this, a Spam� festival!

It�s the annual Waikiki Spam Jam, the new cultural tradition in Hawaii. The Waikiki Spam Jam, which starts at 4:00 p.m. and ends at 10:00 p.m., and is quickly becoming one of the most popular festivals in Hawaii because of its great food and entertainment in a family-friendly atmosphere. Local residents and visitors alike have made this an annual tradition. Last year, an estimated 20,000 people attended the event.

Kalakaua Avenue is closed to car traffic for the event, and two entertainment stages are set up on the street. Between the stages, several of Honolulu�s finest restaurants will be serving up Spam in many different ways, so you can experience the enormous variety of its applications. Two merchandise tents will be selling Spam-themed items including t-shirts, shorts, sport balls, and slippers. A variety of Hawaiian craft booths will also be set up on the street. Since the Waikiki Spam Jam attracts many families, there is also a popular family tent with a variety of games and prizes.

There are no admission charges for enjoying the entertainment.

During the Spam Jam Street Festival, booths are set up by volunteers to help collect donations of Spam for the Hawaii Food Bank.

Introduced in 1937 by Hormel Foods, more Spam is consumed per person in Hawaii than in any other state in the United States. Almost seven million cans of Spam are eaten every year in Hawaii.�

http://spamjamhawaii.com/about.asp

Listen up. Apparently, not so very long ago, fresh meat in Hawaii was extraordinarily expensive because of the difficulty in shipping from the mainland and scarcity on the islands. Canned Spam became very popular in Hawaii and, to this day, fried Spam with rice and fruit is a very popular breakfast treat.

mike77777 02-15-2008 06:26 PM

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lived on crisco and pilot bread for a coupla months in the 70s, had an eskimo wife, we lived in kipnuk village western alaska. supplemented diet with ducks, fish, and wild grass grains. follow the mice to their stash and raid it. berries were good too. crisco and berries made eskimo ice cream. seal oil was an acquired taste, helped to moisten the dreid salmon and reindeer. good hi calorie eating!

WeNeedARevolution 02-15-2008 06:30 PM

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What the heck is spam?

TechGuy 02-15-2008 06:32 PM

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I couldnt help it.

Merlin 02-15-2008 06:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TechGuy (Post 969925)
Where did you find large metal cans? I have been looking and all I can find is plastic. I really want the metal.

I found the 6 pound all-metal cans of Crisco at Meijer's back in 2004. Don't know if they still have them or not. Since keeping Oxygen away is the goal, I would think vacuum-sealed in mylar would do the trick.

TechGuy 02-15-2008 06:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WeNeedARevolution (Post 969941)
What the heck is spam?

Watch the video! It is still popular in England.

Spam is a potted meat product that was used to feed the brittish during the Nazi blockades. It is nearly indestructable, high calorie, and will outlast us all.

It can be fried, eaten out of the can, mixed in with other stuff. It doesnt taste bad, doesnt taste great either.

But it would sure be welcome as opposed to eating just beans and rice.

Merlin 02-15-2008 06:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AMforPM (Post 969923)
We also put away any canned ham we can find. It is not exactly well stocked in stores.

Try Walgreen's, right on the canned goods shelf. It isn't cheap; but the cans sold today expire in 2010 and don't need refrigeration. And I bet they're good for a lot longer than that.

the toxic avenger 02-15-2008 06:47 PM

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Treet Meat is basically the same product as Spam and can usually be found for around a buck a can. I have quite a bit of it in my preps. Treet and canned tuna make up the bulk of my canned meat supply.

AMforPM 02-15-2008 06:52 PM

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Austin has a spam festival too, with my favorite events being the spam toss and spam calling. Spam calling is done much like hog calling, but they say 'spam'

Quote:

Spamorama 2007

Written by Sean French
Saturday, April 7, 2007: Noon 'til 6pm Waterloo Park: 403 E. 15th St., Austin Texas. Austin's annual pandemonious potted pork festival,does its part to �Keep Austin Weird� celebrating its 29th anniversary.

(from Spamorama.org history)
What a year 1978 was! Jimmy Carter was President to 222.6 million Americans whose life expectancy was 73.5 years. The U.S. Senate approved a treaty to turn over the Panama Canal to Panama by the year 2000. The Dallas Cowboys won Super Bowl XII. Both Pope Paul VI and Pope John Paul I died. Jim Jones followers committed mass suicide in Jonestown. The first SPAMARAMA� was held. The Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to Menachim Begin and Anwar el-Sadat following their meetings with President Carter at Camp David. The first spam email was sent. Annie Hall won best picture. Hotel California was Record of the Year.

You read it correctly, the first SPAMARAMA� was held in 1978! Two bar patrons�David Arnsberger and Dick Terry�and one bar owner� George Majewski�pooled resources, may have consumed some suds and established what has become an annual rite of Spring passage for Austin, Texas. Their thinking? BarBQ cook-offs, too easy. Chile Cook-offs, pass�. Show us the brave souls who can present SPAM� dishes that the public would consume and that would be a competition worthy of notoriety. And so, it came to pass (sic).

The event has matured and evolved since 1978. The SPAMALYMPICS� Competitions have become a draw for the adoring public. A kid�s area is feeding and nurturing the notion that SPAMARAMA� is becoming more of a �family event.� SPAMARAMA� resembles other public fairs with it�s retail and food alley and the occasional silent auction benefiting a local non-profit agency, Disability Assistance of Central Texas.

Locations have pin balled around south and central Austin from three Soap Creek Saloons to Scholz Garten, Austin Opera House, Green Mesquite, La Zona Rosa, Cedar Door, East 6th Street, Auditorium Shores, Austin Music Hall and Waterloo Park.

Judges have pin balled their way through the SPAM� Cook-0ff tent, caught between the creative delicacies of master chefs in the Professional Division and the only-to-be-avoided entries of the �artistic� entries in the Open Division. The judge�s directory includes a �who�s whom� of Austin open-mindedness: Jim Hightower, Mel & Joyce Pennington, John Kelso, Eddie Wilson, Guich Koock, Max Nofziger, Bryan Beck, Kerry Awn, Linda Wetherby, Gordon Fowler, Molly Ivins, Nick Barbaro, Liz Carpenter, Billy Forrester and Jackie Goodman. Cajun Chef Paul Prudhomme even dropped by one year! Many others have been part of the judging bench, too many to mention.
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It was the early spring of 1976. Dick Terry and I were fraternizing one afternoon and Dick was bellyaching about how chili cook-offs had become so common-place." I mean, anybody can cook chili." Dick observed, "All you need is some kinda meat, some water, chili powder, comino, and maybe some cayenne, garlic, and/or onion, and you got yer basic chili. If you're from north of the Red River, you might throw in some kinda beans, but basically, that's about all it takes to make 'chili.'" " Yeah, not much of a challenge there, is it?" I responded.


" Now if someone could make SPAM� edible," Dick continued, "That would be a challenge. We ought to have a a 'SPAM�-Off.'"
" Yeah, a 'SPAMARAMA�!'" I blurted out. "We could ask George Majewski over at Soap Creek Saloon if he'd like to host it, and we could have it on April Fool's Day." " Let's do it!" Dick agreed.


And that, in a nutshell, is the beginning of the very first, longest running and funnest SPAM� event in the history of the entire universe. I never thought that it would last more than a year or two. I never thought it would attract more than a handful of Spamophiles who had been cooking and eating the infamous potted pork product since World War II. I never thought there were so many things you could make out of SPAM�!
But I was wrong! .......

David Arnsberger
The Potentate of Potted Pork Parties

Excerpt from the Austin Chronicle

Austin's Quintessential Silly Bar Party
SPAMTASTIC� SPAMARAMA�
BY VIRGINIA B. WOOD
March 31, 2000
In the spring of 1984, my wholesale dessert business and catering company entered the seventh annual SPAMARAMA� with a dish called SPAMBOLI�. Though we garnered only an honorable mention in the professional division, a local TV news crew did stop by our booth for a chat. CNN just happened to pick up that story, and for the next 24 hours, I was discussing the making of SPAMBOLI� on international news. People called my mother from all over to tease her about my serendipitous TV appearance. "I thought you told us she was in Austin making fancy desserts and catering, but I saw her on the news talking about how to cook with ... SPAM�," my aunt cackled. Mother, who had never served SPAM� in our household a day in her life, was not amused.


That's SPAMARAMA� for you: Austin's quintessential silly bar party where the unexpected, the ridiculous, and/or the disgusting are always likely to happen. You see, the pandemonious pork pattie party was the product of an earlier, simpler time when the city didn't take itself nearly so seriously as it does today. It's one of those events that defines a certain laid-back aspect of Austin, Texas, in the last quarter of the 20th century that seems to be disappearing. For the last 22 years, SPAMARAMA� has been one of the traditional rites of spring, like Eeyore's Birthday Party or cutting class/calling in sick because the weather is beautiful and it's an obvious lake day.


Back when SPAMARAMA� first started, there weren't too many upscale restaurants or CIA-trained chefs here in River City, but the cook-off always attracted a broad cross-section of amateur and professional cooks. Some guys, such as multiple SPAMARAMA� award-winner John Myers (aka Chef SPAM�) always went the haute cuisine route with dishes such as SPAM� Oscar, SPAM� Cordon Bleu, or SPAM� Puffs. Other guys, like Kevin Rollins, took a completely different direction and perennially competed for the "Worst" dish, creating delicacies like SPAM-ALAMA� Ding-Dongs and other questionable food items too disgusting to describe even in an alternative newspaper.....


Excerpt from the Daily Texan

SPAM� Takes the City by Storm!
By Dan Kleiner
On April 1, a torch left New York City headed for Austin with a can of SPAM sitting atop it where the fire should have been. When a girl ran with the torch through the gates of Waterloo Park on Saturday, it began the 26th year of a festival inspired by the meat product that fed England during World War II.

SPAMARAMA� drew thousands - an estimated 8,000 to 9,000 people - to the park for music, food, rides and the SPAMALYMPICS. " SPAMARAMA� has gone through a lot of changes, and this year is no different," said Norman Kieke, the executive director of Disability Assistance of Central Texas, SPAMARAMA�'s main sponsor. "It grew out of a small neighborhood function and gets better every year. We are always very excited."

The SPAM�-related festival started out small as an alternative event to April Fools' Day barbecues at the original Soap Creek Saloon. It has since moved to Waterloo Park and picked up the support of Kieke's organization, which receives 50 percent of the proceeds and uses them to provide employment support, technology training and general assistance to disabled Central Texans.

Local rock band Uranium Savages opened the festival and the second event, a SPAM� toss, began the SPAMALYMPICS. The youngest competitor, 11-year-old Alex Hager, opened the SPAM� calling contest, which is just like hog calling but with the word "SPAM�." His unique call, a series of armpit noises followed by a call of "Here SPAM�, here SPAM�!" took the gold medal.

Returning to defend their title in the SPAM� toss were Mark and Cody Mikeska, a father-son team with four previous SPAM� tosses under its belt. SPAM� tossers throw a chunk of SPAM� to each other at increasing distances until someone drops it. After three rounds of flying SPAM�, which sometimes christened spectators with SPAM� juice, the defending champions were pitted against two other teams. The Mikeskas won the 2004 championship. "The key is getting enough elevation under the SPAM�," Mark Mikeska said after their victory.

Many groups occupied tents, including 10-year SPAMARAMA� veterans the Squealage People. The men dressed up as the Village People with pig-like modifications. Nathan Hinds, who drove from San Marcos for the festival, said he was particularly proud of their accomplishments this year. "Today we have a concoction called 'Queer Pork on a Straight Fork'," Hinds said. "We have won the 'Worst Taste' award eight of the last nine years, and we're darned proud of that."

After sampling the creations of various culinary artists, spectators saw the most heated and controversial SPAMARAMA� event - the Collegiate SPAM� Relay. The race pitted UT students against contestants from Texas A&M University in a relay. It started out dead even, but by the final SPAM� handoff, the Aggies had gained a slight lead. UT's Randy Gonzalez, a 23-year-old chemical engineering senior, narrowed the lead but lost control of the SPAM� in the last few seconds. Victory went to Texas A&M, inciting booing and calls for a rematch from the crowd

After a short break, people began surging forward, pushing and leaning to get as close to the stage as possible for the final event. For years, the SPAM�-eating contest was known as the SPAM� cram. This year, the International Federation of Competitive Eating sponsored the event, bringing with it Rich and Carlene LeFevre, two of the world's most renowned eaters. The couple whizzed through SPAM� burgers, and Carlene performed her trademark "Carlene bounce," jumping up and down to settle food in her stomach. After the final bell, Rich came out on top, having eaten just more than six 12-ounce SPAM� burgers. Carlene won second place with just under five. When asked about the level of competition, Rich LeFevre said, "I was only worried about Carlene."

With the conclusion of the Spamalympics came the awards presentation for the cook-off winners. The Squealage People successfully defended their Worst Taste title with "Queer Pork on a Straight Fork," and the Lone Star Cafe-sponsored Spalamo team won the Best in Show prize for its Alamo-shaped SPAM� appetizers.

Canadian-guerilla 02-15-2008 08:53 PM

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as far as meat in a can goes

TUNA

and for variety

salmon and sardines in tomato sauce

RaccoonRiverRadical 02-15-2008 09:06 PM

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Do any of you jar your own meats with the help of a good pressure cooker?
Much better than spam.

Riskfactor 02-15-2008 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mike77777 (Post 969929)
follow the mice to their stash and raid it.

LOL!! this is actually very good advice for last-ditch efforts. excellent!

RaccoonRiverRadical 02-15-2008 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Elijah (Post 970113)
Actually, yes. My wife does it not me. The reason she does it is because of how quickly she can open a can, heat and serve. Same reason she also does veggies and potatoes. In under ten minutes she can have a meal on the table, fit for me, (not a king.) :tongue_ma:

Except it is not under ten minutes when you calculate the amount of time it takes to prepare a jar of meat. I just did it for the first time last weekend and it takes a good bit of work. This was my pilot program so to speak.

____hoot____ 02-15-2008 10:47 PM

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Put away two cases of corned beef from the dollar store in 06, when it was still a dollar. Bought two cases of pink salmon at 88 cents a can in 06, too. And got a couple cases of tuna at 33 cents a can then also.

This all happenned after I heard that the second "Fatherland Bill" made hoarding more than a two week supply of food illeagal.{HERE I AM COPPERS! COME AND TRY TO GET IT!}
Have learned how to can, and have about 50 pints of ham and 30 of venisen that I have canned. Experimenting with stew and hash recipes.

____hoot____ 02-15-2008 10:52 PM

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Expireation dates were 2011 for most of the canned meats bought in 06. Got some big buckets of lard too from a mexican store.

AMforPM 02-15-2008 10:54 PM

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Are you kidding? Storing food is illegal? All Latter Day Saints are criminals? (And all sensible people)

Wow! They do intend to starve us then.

____hoot____ 02-15-2008 10:55 PM

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I did get some Spam too, but I ate it all.

____hoot____ 02-15-2008 11:00 PM

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Sorry AM for PM; but I did hear this on several "patriot" radio programs a couple years ago. Since they have about 140 million laws and regulations out in the goode olde USA now, we are all busting dozens everyday anyway.

Merlin 02-15-2008 11:15 PM

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Got some hamburger at a great price a couple of years ago and canned it ala Ball Blue Book. It's great if you need cooked meat in a hurry for chili, stew, etc.

DogFarm 02-16-2008 12:37 AM

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dude, this dog likes travelling first class, eating angus beef hamburgers, and getting picked up at the airport in chauffer driven towncars....(of course with this real estate downturn he is now travelling coach, eating Burger King, and taking taxis from the airport.)

that said, SPAM is one of my favorite foods from my childhood and it is one of my favorite foods in the world.

every sunday as a special treat I like to have some spam and eggs and toast and OJ. the spam is pulled from the can, thinly sliced, an the eggs and bread are cooked in the same pan so no additional salt is needed. it's one of life's simple pleasures and even now in my weakened financial condition spam and eggs makes me smile.

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Sparky 02-16-2008 12:57 AM

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If you want a good laugh, Google "Spam Haiku", and read a few of these mini-poems. (Haiku is a three line poem, where the syllables per line must alternate 5-7-5.)

There are thousands of these on the internet. Here is a sample:

Grotesque pinkish mass
In a blue can on a shelf
Quivering alone

The color of Spam
is natural as the sky:
A block of sunrise

Oh tin of pink meat
I ponder what you may be:
Snout or ear or feet?

I put my shoes on
But remembered far too late
My secret SPAM stash.

Dwindling SPAM stockpile;
leftovers from better times.
Wolf is at the door.

Silent, former pig
one communal awareness
myriad pink bricks

And who dares mock Spam?
you? you? you are not worthy
of one rich pink fleck

Pink tender morsel
Glistening with salty gel
What the hell is it?

Ears, snouts, and innards,
A homogenous mass
Pass another slice

Highly unnatural
The tortured shape of this "food"
A small pink coffin

Pink beefy temptress
I can no longer remain
Vegetarian

Queasy, greasy SPAM
Slithers without propulsion
Across a white plate.

Born in World War Two
Hogs marching off to battle
Dressed in tin armor.

The blue can is square
Why not a circular can?
Too much like dog food.

Myrrh, frankincense, and
SPAM: the gifts of two wise men
and one complete fool.

Bright lights and cruel cops
grill the suspect pork product
It doesn't confess.

After scrutiny,
methinks it is doggie food
I eat on all fours.

In mud you frolicked
Till they cut, cleaned and canned you
How now, ground sow?

Cold SPAM canapes
Served up by John Belushi-
Martha Stewart's Hell!

Slice the cold, pink block
Apply to sucking chest wound
Don't need stitches now.

Silken pig tofu
The color of spanked buttocks
Blushing at my knife.

SPAM glistens pinkly;
Cat taps it with wary paw
To see if it's dead.

Unclad Lad 02-16-2008 02:00 AM

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Spam, corned beef hash, and don't forget the Vienna sausages! A steady of diet of these will kill us quickly, but they won't be the bulk of our storage. It'll certainly liven up a bowl of rice and beans (and wheat berries!). And if we're scrabbling to keep alive we'll welcome the extra fat and sodium. And when meat cannot be bought fresh at any price that can will be worth more than its weight in Maple Leafs.

I just got the funniest image: Remember the "Bum Fight" videos from a few years ago? Well, when they get hungry enough you can have PETA members duke it out for a can of Spam!!!! :evil:


That said, I prefer the Turkey Spam.

shades2 02-16-2008 02:22 AM

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Half a can of spam is about all I can handle. Very high in fat and sodium and a funny aftertaste, but edible. The cans seem well made, I could see that you might get a few years out of them, but I wouldn't leave them longer than a year or so.

There are other alternatives around, but they tend to cost a bit more than spam. Plumrose ham for example.


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CQC McDuck 02-16-2008 02:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Merlin (Post 969955)
Try Walgreen's, right on the canned goods shelf. It isn't cheap; but the cans sold today expire in 2010 and don't need refrigeration. And I bet they're good for a lot longer than that.

Those celebrity hams from Walgreen's are pretty tasty. I bought about 15 cans last year for preps, but ended up eating them all. lol

Silvestor 02-16-2008 04:03 AM

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I think canned sardines in oil are a better purchase than spam. Here is the nutrition data on each product.

Sardines
$1.39 regular price
$.99 on sale
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SPAM
$2.75 regular price
~$1.99 sale
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http://i28.tinypic.com/2vm6g03.png

silverharp 02-16-2008 05:53 AM

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I have recently started eating tinned fish for lunch and I must say, it's cheap, long life most have 2011 as best before, and healthy. one could do worse then have a years worth of rotation, say you eat 2 tins a week, then have 100/200 tins at any one time

latemetal 02-16-2008 06:14 AM

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Add one more, Smoked Oysters, very good with triscuts or saltines.:tongue_ma: Good thread

hystckndle 02-16-2008 08:32 AM

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Hey Sparky,
Nice haiku post.
The Haystackneedle hasn't laughed that hard in awhile.

jaima 02-16-2008 08:52 AM

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This is the southern version of Spam.
http://images.thewavemag.com/images/...2000/11541.jpg

Mystery Meat
Can the riddle of potted meat food product be solved? Answer: Mmm-hrmmn.
By Chris Bushnell

�I was thinkin� I could use me another couple cans o� that potted meat if ya got any extree.�
�Karl Childers, Sling Blade
Anyone who has ever seen writer-director-actor Billy Bob Thornton�s 1996 masterpiece about a lovably homicidal mental patient remembers that film�s most disgusting scene. No, we�re not talking about the climactic sequence when Karl buries a lawnmower blade into Dwight Yoakam�s head, although that was pretty nauseating, as well. The scene in question occurs when our protagonist calmly opens a can of potted meat, spreads the contents onto a cracker, and then eats it without wincing. Truly, it was an Academy Award-worthy performance.

Like many who have watched Sling Blade, this writer was struck with one burning question: What the hell is �potted meat�?! In a fit of journalistic curiosity, a decision was made to find out. Who knew that the answer, apparently, is a closely-held secret known only by our country�s largest food manufacturers.

The first step was to get a hold of some potted meat. Surprisingly, this staple of the boxcar hobo diet is available in virtually every supermarket, usually tucked between cans of tuna and pre-made chili. At a total cost of $1.47, we picked up two three-ounce cans of Armour Potted Meat (dubbed �America�s Favorite� on the can) and one 5.5-ounce can of Libby�s Potted Meat Food Product. Total combined nutritional value: 510 calories, 38 grams of fat, and for all you Atkins dieters, a whopping 47 grams of protein and no carbs.
While perusing the unique nutritional statistics on the label, our eyes were inevitably drawn to the ingredients:

Mechanically separated chicken, beef tripe, partially defatted cooked beef fatty tissue, beef hearts, water, partially defatted cooked pork fatty tissue, salt and less than 2% mustard, garlic, vinegar, sodium erythorbate, sodium nitrite, natural flavors.

While beef hearts and beef tripe (the hard-to-digest muscular lining of the bovine stomach) sounded like things you would only eat on Fear Factor if promised a fabulous cash prize, at least they were recognizable. Mechanically

separated chicken just sounded evil. Without delay, we dialed the 800 number on the Armour can to get some answers.

�Mechanically separated chicken (MSC) is just chicken that has been separated by a machine,� claimed �Cindy,� a customer

service representative from the Dial Corporation, owner of Armour Foods. �If you want to know more, I�ll have to transfer you to a product specialist.�

But once a product specialist was reached, things became a little less clear. �I�m sorry, but if you�re with the media, I�ll have to transfer you to someone else,� claimed �Karen,� another surnameless Armour employee.

Finally we were put in touch with Natalie Viola (a last name!), a Dial Corp. spokesperson. �We really don�t have anyone here who can talk about potted meat. Sorry.�

At the Omaha, Nebraska headquarters of ConAgra Foods, makers of Libby�s version of potted meat, the response was the same. �Mechanically separated chicken is the process the chicken is taken off the bone,� said the fourth person we spoke with. Which part of the chicken? �We purchase the chicken already separated, so I don�t know.� Their response was somewhat more professional than the fine folks at Hormel, who dismissed our potted meat inquiries via email, and then, when we phoned, informed us that Julie Craven, Director of Corporate Communication, would not be taking our calls.

�These companies are famous for not talking about much of anything, actually,� says Richard Lobb, spokesman for the National Chicken Council, the only chicken industry lobbying group willing to speak on the record about mechanically separated chicken. �They tend to not like to talk about how they fabricate some of these manufactured products.�

Could Lobb shed some light on the mystery of mechanically separated chicken? Unfortunately, yes.

�The mechanical separator basically has a screw and a drive, and it just presses the chicken part against a fine screen at incredibly high pressure and the meat is squeezed off through a sieve. It�s usually dark meat from the drumstick or the thigh or possibly the back, which has meat that�s been locked up in the bones.� In other words, these are the scraps that the human separators simply cannot pick off.

�I�ve actually seen them make it at the plant,� said Lobb, in a rare moment of frankness. �It looks like pink toothpaste when it comes out of the machine.�

MSC can also be found in hot dogs, where it cannot exceed 12% of the contents and is required by law to be labeled as mechanically separated meat. But what about the oxymoronic-sounding �partially defatted cooked beef/pork fatty tissue.� Not even Richard Lobb could explain that one. However, our exhaustive search of supermarket ingredient labels found only one other product which contained this substance: dog food.

But turning one�s nose up at ingredients (even if it was because of a significant spoiled smell) is no way to become a gastronome. After all, escargot is snails and p�t� is goose liver. Does potted meat defy its butcher-shop wastebin-sounding contents?

For testing, we opted to ignore some of the delicious potted meat recipes posted on Amour�s website (although the �Devilish Meat and Egg Sandwich� sounded quite gourmet) and taste-test this canned meat-paste straight. The result? Featuring the texture of a soggy lump of chopped bologna and the distinct aroma of fresh kitty vomit, we found that potted meat clung to the palette like salty napalm, leaving a stubborn trail of aftertaste on our esophagus. In other words: Mm-hrmmn, gots any more, mm-hrmmn?

RaccoonRiverRadical 02-16-2008 09:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ____hoot____ (Post 970179)
Have learned how to can, and have about 50 pints of ham and 30 of venisen that I have canned. Experimenting with stew and hash recipes.

I did chicken thighs. Made it easier on myself by using skinned and boneless thighs. It is kind of strange the way the jar continues to bubble for almost an hour even after the glass has cooled off. I take it that must be due to the vacuum-state. I tried one after a week to make sure it tasted good and even though it is way over cooked by everyday standards (65 minutes in the pressure cooker) it was good. Definitely the way to go for preps.

Tn...Andy 02-16-2008 09:37 AM

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We can meats already made into meals....beef stew, chili, chicken stew, etc. The canning process does the 'cooking' and it's just heat and eat after that.

davehorus 02-16-2008 09:37 AM

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As a historian, I can add that we not only supplied the British with SPAM in WWII (as noted above in another post) but also gave it to other allies like the USSR.

Hungry Russian troops were happy to get food, but eating cold SPAM straight from the can while on the battlefield against the Germans (the Eastern front) was jokingly referred to as fighting the second front (gag reflex?)

I've eaten fried SPAM and fried Scrapple but they will never be a choice for everyday eating.

bjgnome 02-16-2008 09:41 AM

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http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/...cle3349347.ece

Canned pancakes & bacon anyone?

DogFarm 02-16-2008 02:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by latemetal (Post 970346)
Add one more, Smoked Oysters, very good with triscuts or saltines.:tongue_ma: Good thread

Have you ever kissed anyone after they have eaten a tin of smoked oysters?

Don't forget the toothpaste.

RaccoonRiverRadical 02-16-2008 02:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tn...Andy (Post 970423)
We can meats already made into meals....beef stew, chili, chicken stew, etc. The canning process does the 'cooking' and it's just heat and eat after that.

Yes but it is actually quite time consuming to make a jar of meat, the type that will last for years. It makes more sense for a person in your situation to freeze the meals. I don't understand how it is efficient for you to use canned preps for ordinary meals.

Tn...Andy 02-16-2008 03:01 PM

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We freeze as well.....But efficiency isn't always the name of the game.

For one thing, I can already be eating stew out of a jar before I could even get a frozen block of it thawed, even using the microwave.

For another, it tastes better to me over frozen, plus will last longer in the jar.

Canning requires no additional energy to remain preserved once in the jar.

For another, canning is a damnhandy skill to know + having the equipment, jars, lids, etc ready to go in case your freezer decides to quit at a real inoportune time.....or the power goes away on a permanent basis (SHTF)

vida loco 02-16-2008 03:23 PM

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after reading this I think I will go stand in line at the nearest camp

The Loco:smokin:

Fullpower 02-16-2008 03:32 PM

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"Silken pig tofu
The color of spanked buttocks
Blushing at my knife."



Priceless.... thank you.

Fullpower 02-16-2008 03:57 PM

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back in '91 around the first gulf war, we put away some goods, including SPAM. opened a can last year, condition normal, no problem.


SPAM, the OTHER pink meat
sixteen years old, and ready to eat

RealityCheck 02-16-2008 04:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RaccoonRiverRadical (Post 970418)
I tried one after a week to make sure it tasted good and even though it is way over cooked by everyday standards (65 minutes in the pressure cooker) it was good. Definitely the way to go for preps.

Are you doing quart jars? If so you should can them for 90 minutes (according to my All American book at least.)

I agree there is a lot of prep in canning, but once its all done the convenience can't be beat. Its also a lot cheaper in the long run then buying good canned meat. Also a canner is a must once TSHTF so you might as well buy one now and learn to use it. As far as buying canned meats, Yoders and Grabil Country are both quite good. Yoders beef is one big chunk that fills the whole can. Its like an instant roast of good tender meat. They have a three year shelf life, so if you rotate them regularly you could have a couple year supply of meat on hand. I would stock up on those before I even considered purchasing a can of SPAM or any other processed garbage (unless of course you prefer the taste of SPAM). I think canning your own meat is the only way to go in the long run since its cheaper, better, and gives you the ability to preserve just about any food you want.

RaccoonRiverRadical 02-16-2008 04:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RealityCheck (Post 970724)
Are you doing quart jars? If so you should can them for 90 minutes (according to my All American book at least.)

I agree there is a lot of prep in canning, but once its all done the convenience can't be beat. Its also a lot cheaper in the long run then buying good canned meat. Also a canner is a must once TSHTF so you might as well buy one now and learn to use it. As far as buying canned meats, Yoders and Grabil Country are both quite good. Yoders beef is one big chunk that fills the whole can. Its like an instant roast of good tender meat. They have a three year shelf life, so if you rotate them regularly you could have a couple year supply of meat on hand. I would stock up on those before I even considered purchasing a can of SPAM or any other processed garbage (unless of course you prefer the taste of SPAM). I think canning your own meat is the only way to go in the long run since its cheaper, better, and gives you the ability to preserve just about any food you want.

We have the same instruction book: All American. I did pints the first time. Each one of those is about a meal, and requires 65 minutes. I agree it is a great skill to know. In fact I am doing more chickens this weekend. I tried one out and it is quite tasty. I was afraid it would be terribly overcooked and dry but it was not, of course it was swimming in a broth bath. I only wish I had purchased the larger unit where I could stack the jars.

RealityCheck 02-16-2008 04:54 PM

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I tried to PC some pork loin and it came out very dry. It may be because I cut all the fat off of it before broiling it. I was bummed out because that stuff is so dirt cheap so you get this giant slab of pork for nothing. I am using it for emergency cat food since I don't like the way it came out. All the beef I canned came out tender and juicy like from a crock pot, but not the pork.

Has anyone else canned pork loin?

AMforPM 02-16-2008 05:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ____hoot____ (Post 970197)
Sorry AM for PM; but I did hear this on several "patriot" radio programs a couple years ago. Since they have about 140 million laws and regulations out in the goode olde USA now, we are all busting dozens everyday anyway.

You know, I can see rushing out 2 days before the hurricane and grabbing everything in sight as harming the community, because there is only so much in stock. But preparing long in advance of any problem, when there is plenty, helps the community because you are one household less that needs the stuff in stock and provided by emergency services. FEMA suggests people be prepared, our local government too.

In other words, preparing during the fat years is different from grabbing a lot of what is available in a crisis.

It sounds like an excuse to steal from the prepared, actually. I kind of took Katrina as a model. They sent Blackwater door to door for guns but did not mess with food and water. Raids in Iraq seem to trash all the food and hole the cistern, however. I've seen flour bags slashed and trampled post a kicked in door.

I certainly hope it does not come to that because if it does people will have to defend their families and I want so much for us to not get violent with each other. I guess I better get a move on better concealed storage.

Silver_Fox 02-16-2008 08:28 PM

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I actually opened a canned Ham.....To my surprise.... the dessert was also included in with the canned Ham.. in the form of jello.:D

Argentsum 02-16-2008 09:30 PM

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anyone know what the shelf-life is for Vegemite?

http://www.pushpullbar.com/forums/at...1&d=1168556763

buff01 02-17-2008 04:28 AM

Re: SPAM and other canned meats...
 
my favorite SPAM haiku of all time--

Cube of cold pinkness
Yellow specks of porcine fat
Give me a spork please.

Awoke 02-17-2008 11:43 AM

Re: SPAM and other canned meats...
 
Am I the only person that admits to liking the taste of spam?

Merlin 02-17-2008 02:14 PM

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No, you're not. We're on our way to Meijer's this afternoon. They have Spam on sale at 3 for $5. Got to get me some more.

Little Ant 02-17-2008 02:23 PM

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1 Attachment(s)
I'm not big on Spam but anyone know how these other canned meats hold up over time? They're all on sale at Walgreen's this week. I might try the roast beef or ham.

Attachment 40342 $1.99
thru Feb 23
12 oz.
� Hormel Spam, Corned Beef or Roast Beef
� Celebrity Ham

Limit 2 ea.

Awoke 02-17-2008 03:02 PM

Re: SPAM and other canned meats...
 
oooohhhh! Me likey corned beef with mustard and pickles on rye...

*EDIT - I just noticede the limit - 2 each. Bring some friends with you and get a bunch!

Dick 02-17-2008 03:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Little Ant (Post 971550)
I'm not big on Spam but anyone know how these other canned meats hold up over time? They're all on sale at Walgreen's this week. I might try the roast beef or ham.

Attachment 40342 $1.99
thru Feb 23
12 oz.
� Hormel Spam, Corned Beef or Roast Beef
� Celebrity Ham

Limit 2 ea.

I saw some corned beef -12oz for 1.51. They have a minimum order of 300.00 though.

http://www.dollaritem.com/keywords/Wholesale-FO5032.asp

Merlin 02-17-2008 03:55 PM

Re: SPAM and other canned meats...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Little Ant (Post 971550)
I'm not big on Spam but anyone know how these other canned meats hold up over time? They're all on sale at Walgreen's this week. I might try the roast beef or ham.

Attachment 40342 $1.99
thru Feb 23
12 oz.
� Hormel Spam, Corned Beef or Roast Beef
� Celebrity Ham

Limit 2 ea.

I've tried the Celebrity Ham and intend to buy more during the sale. The expiration on it appears to be the same as Spam -- 3 years or never??? If you think it will taste as good as cooking your own fresh ham in the oven, you will be disappointed. But after making allowances for its being a canned ham, it isn't half bad. I used one to make ham salad a few weeks ago and it was completely acceptable. Would probably be better as fried ham in the morning than sliced for dinner however.

I just got back from shopping at Meijer's, where I took the last 5 cans of sale-priced Spam off the shelf. Apparently there are many people who like Spam when the price is right? Or could there be many people prepping?

damoc 02-17-2008 04:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Argentsum (Post 970987)
anyone know what the shelf-life is for Vegemite?

http://www.pushpullbar.com/forums/at...1&d=1168556763

forever they found it in the pyramids :D egyptians wouldnt eat it either
buried the stuff ha ha just kidding I actually love it eat it by the spoonfull.

dont think it realy goes off just dries out a little ive eaten some 3 years old
unrefrigerated and opened and it didnt taste much different.


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Hivemindgammahydra7 02-17-2008 07:13 PM

Re: SPAM and other canned meats...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DogFarm (Post 970265)

every sunday as a special treat I like to have some spam and eggs and toast and OJ. the spam is pulled from the can, thinly sliced, an the eggs and bread are cooked in the same pan so no additional salt is needed. it's one of life's simple pleasures and even now in my weakened financial condition spam and eggs makes me smile.

DF STOP IT! You're making me hungry! :spam4:

macrohard 02-17-2008 07:38 PM

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Yes. I'm going to read everything about cheap Viagra and nutritional supplements WTSHTF.

:D

edit: oh, sorry, didn't read the thread title....

____hoot____ 02-17-2008 08:53 PM

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LMAO Sparky! Thanks!



Ya, life would be kinda bleak without some cherry wood smoked canned oysters; I'm down to only four cans!!!!

JJ_ 02-18-2008 10:08 AM

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fwiw...

I had been keeping a stash of spam in an unclimate controlled enviroment.... - outdoors in TX heat for 2 yrs... I decided to Check some about a month ago... ate it right out of the can w/ no ill effects.. other than it tasted like cold spam

AMforPM 02-18-2008 04:32 PM

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Hats off to anyone who can eat spam cold outta the can. I actually like it fried, but cold... yikes!

Fullpower 02-19-2008 01:21 AM

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had the wife pickup a six pack of fresh spam today..... they changed the formula apparently. says 25% less salt. I hope that doesn't reduce shelf life by 25%..... I will let you all know in about seventeen years when I open a test can.
I will be looking for some of the good old full salt variety, assuming there is some remaining stock.

JJ_ 02-19-2008 08:41 AM

Re: SPAM and other canned meats...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AMforPM (Post 972987)
Hats off to anyone who can eat spam cold outta the can. I actually like it fried, but cold... yikes!

Well.. I don't prefer to eat it...cold or cooked for that matter.....

consider it conditioning...:D

JC Refuge 02-19-2008 02:07 PM

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I'm not a SPAM lover, but I do like it this way:

On a piece of toast, lay a couple of slices of warm SPAM.

Add a slice of cheese.

Top with warm pork and beans or baked beans.

Yum!

beercritic 02-19-2008 03:31 PM

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Someone upthread mentioned Armour Treet instead of Spam. Try one can before you stock up. Nasty stuff, in my estimation. A poor attempt at a Spam clone. Ingredients start out: Mechanically separated chicken, pork, water, salt... My cats won't even touch the stuff.

Whereas Spam starts out: Pork with ham, salt, water...

In a SHTF scenario, SPAM has 180 calories (140 fat) Treet has 130 calories (100 fat) per 2 ounce serving.

Spam: More calories, tastes better. More of a comfort food than a torture test.

Aldi supermarkets have a Spam version called Brookdale: Pork, ham, salt, water. Identical calorie count as Spam. A wee bit less salt. Very similar taste to Spam. I don't eat enough of the stuff to do a side-by-side taste test. About half the cost of Spam.

FWIW

Awoke 02-19-2008 11:32 PM

Re: SPAM and other canned meats...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JC Refuge (Post 974388)
I'm not a SPAM lover, but I do like it this way:

On a piece of toast, lay a couple of slices of warm SPAM.

Add a slice of cheese.

Top with warm pork and beans or baked beans.

Yum!

Sounded great till you brought beans into it!

:puke:

Little Ant 02-21-2008 07:33 AM

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Ok, I went to Walgreen's and bought two of the 12 oz. Hormel Roast Beef on sale as this family is no lover of spam. Thought I would try it out and if it went over with the kids I would stock up on some more. I left the bag on the table when I got home and when I went to put it away my 14 year old son had eaten both cans. He loved it. I got to try one piece before he finished off the second can and it wasn't bad. I can see it going well over rice or pasta to make it stretch. Limit is 2 but I work next door to a Walgreens and can pick up quite a few with multiple visits on my breaks.

But now I've got to find a good hiding place from my starving son.:D Hard to keep the stockpile up when you've got 3 teenagers.

Merlin 02-21-2008 07:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fullpower (Post 973673)
had the wife pickup a six pack of fresh spam today..... they changed the formula apparently. says 25% less salt. I hope that doesn't reduce shelf life by 25%..... I will let you all know in about seventeen years when I open a test can.
I will be looking for some of the good old full salt variety, assuming there is some remaining stock.

They have different varieties. Also, Spam with Bacon (that sounds interesting) and Turkey Spam in addition to the plain old Spam original.

Codger 02-21-2008 01:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TechGuy (Post 969944)
Spam (Monty Python)


I couldnt help it.

OH YOU BEAT ME!!!!!


Well, there's egg and bacon,
egg sausage and bacon
Egg and spam
Egg, bacon and spam
Egg, badon, sausage and spam
Spam, bacon, sausage and spam
Spam, egg, spam, spam, bacon and spam
Spam, sausage, spam, spam, spam, bacon, spam tomato and spam
Spam, spam, spam, egg and spam
Spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, baked beans, spam, spam, spam and spam.

(Choir: Spam! Spam! Spam! Spam! Lovely Spam! Lovely Spam!)

Or Lobster Thermidor aux crevettes with a mornay sauce
served in a provencale manner with shallots and aubergines
garnished with truffle pate, brandy and a fried egg on top and spam.

Codger 02-21-2008 01:46 PM

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A few of you mentioned a canning book, All American? What's the full title and is it a good source for all types of canning?

RealityCheck 02-21-2008 01:54 PM

Re: SPAM and other canned meats...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Codger (Post 977415)
A few of you mentioned a canning book, All American? What's the full title and is it a good source for all types of canning?

Its the instruction book that comes with the all american pressure cooker.

I heard the Ball blue book is good, but don't own it yet.

CQC McDuck 02-21-2008 03:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wakeness (Post 971593)
oooohhhh! Me likey corned beef with mustard and pickles on rye...

*EDIT - I just noticede the limit - 2 each. Bring some friends with you and get a bunch!

Most stores won't care. I bought 15-20 cans of the stuff last year during a similar sale with the same limit.

Avalon 11-18-2008 09:43 AM

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I had to bump this up.. Its one of Spams best threads ever..

argentos 11-18-2008 10:47 AM

Re: SPAM and other canned meats...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Argentsum (Post 970987)
anyone know what the shelf-life is for Vegemite?

http://www.pushpullbar.com/forums/at...1&d=1168556763

I would guess it's unlimted in practice. Vegemite has even more salt in it than Marmite and I have never known an opened jar of Marmite forgotten at the back of a cupboard to go off, although it can get quite thick as it dries out. Doesn't alter the taste, but it makes it difficult to spread.

Marmite does have a shortish (about 2 year) date on the jar, but who pays attention to those?



P.S. I love Spam. :yes:

the toxic avenger 11-18-2008 11:20 AM

Re: SPAM and other canned meats...
 
Treet is very similar to Spam, about a buck a can at Wally World and also has an indefinate shelf life. http://www.armour-star.com/about_us_faq.html

Being able to buy it for half the price of Spam could really help folks out that need to do a lot of last minute prepping.


ETA: I just bought a few cans of Treet at Wally World a few minutes ago. It was 97 cents a can a couple of months ago. It was $1.12 today.

Lucky225 11-20-2008 05:12 PM

Re: SPAM and other canned meats...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Argentsum (Post 970987)
anyone know what the shelf-life is for Vegemite?

http://www.pushpullbar.com/forums/at...1&d=1168556763

Wow. Yuck. Looks like :censored: pureed liver or something >:p

Ag_man 11-20-2008 06:38 PM

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I live near a Hormel plant, they don't make Spam there, just the chili. I knew a guy that worked maintenance there and he also spent some time at the Austin Lea, MN plant where Spam is made. He observed the production and said he didn't see anything that went into the product that looked nasty. He also says the same thing about the chili and he eats both products. If a guy that works at a food plant actually eats the product, I guess it must not be too bad!

Eulenspiegel 11-20-2008 08:56 PM

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I haven't tried that roast beef, but the Costco house brand of canned roast beef is delicious. Brisket, nice and tender.

TTAZZMAN 11-20-2008 09:23 PM

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FWIW

Sams wholesale club here has both 4pack spam and Vienna Sausages in bulk


and yes i like the taste of both raw or cooked

thrifty_bob 11-21-2008 05:35 PM

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Walgreens has spam and ham and corned beef on sale till tomorrow with coupon

Squirrel Bait 11-22-2008 05:09 PM

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Anybody know how the generic spam at Wallyworld compares to the Hormel stuff. It's about 30% cheaper.

s

AgAuGal 11-22-2008 06:02 PM

Re: SPAM and other canned meats...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tn...Andy (Post 970423)
We can meats already made into meals....beef stew, chili, chicken stew, etc. The canning process does the 'cooking' and it's just heat and eat after that.

So you do not cook/brown the meat before canning? Just can it from raw state?

Ag_man 11-22-2008 06:54 PM

Re: SPAM and other canned meats...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Squirrel Bait (Post 1430214)
Anybody know how the generic spam at Wallyworld compares to the Hormel stuff. It's about 30% cheaper.

s

Generic spam, that's almost too horrible to think about. I used to really like Spam as a kid, fried Spam sandwiches -yum! I bought some a couple of months ago and made a sandwich and found it just on the edge of edibility.

Of course, if a guy was really hungry...

Squirrel Bait 11-23-2008 08:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ag_man (Post 1430331)
Generic spam, that's almost too horrible to think about. I used to really like Spam as a kid, fried Spam sandwiches -yum! I bought some a couple of months ago and made a sandwich and found it just on the edge of edibility.

Of course, if a guy was really hungry...

Yeah, I was hoping somebody else could tell me. I really don't want to do a taste comparison. All the numbers on the back were the same. Even the can looked the same. This is stuff that won't be broken out till hunger is gettin personal and by then I'm sure it will be great.

s :s10::s10::s10:

Awoke 11-23-2008 09:06 PM

Re: SPAM and other canned meats...
 
I just picked up tins of Ham, Chicken and Turkey, 4 of each, for a dollar each.
Added to the foodstocks. I think I have about 4 months wirth of food for my family.
8 jugs of water stocked up as well.

beercritic 11-24-2008 07:49 AM

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The generic spam at Aldi's is pretty damned close to the real thing. The nutrition numbers match, as does the list of ingredients. Have not had them side by side, but Spam is a very distinctive flavor. $1.39/can. Way cheaper than the brand name. Same flavor in my estimation.

Stay away from Treet. It's chicken based and really foul. ;-) Nasty stuff. Bad taste and bad texture.


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Squirrel Bait 11-25-2008 11:32 AM

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Maybe I'll sneek some into the kids scrambled eggs. See if they notice. It'll get 'em used to it too. yum yum!!! :bull-smile:

s

meatman 11-25-2008 06:37 PM

Re: SPAM and other canned meats...
 
bought some of their sample packs to try

http://www.pleasanthillgrain.com/can...nned_beef.aspx

http://www.pleasanthillgrain.com/foo...aspx#pakselect

Codger 11-26-2008 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ag_man (Post 1427062)
I live near a Hormel plant, they don't make Spam there, just the chili. I knew a guy that worked maintenance there and he also spent some time at the Austin Lea, MN plant where Spam is made. He observed the production and said he didn't see anything that went into the product that looked nasty. He also says the same thing about the chili and he eats both products. If a guy that works at a food plant actually eats the product, I guess it must not be too bad!

I don't mean to nitpick but there is no Austin Lea plant in MN or for that matter an Austin Lea. There is an Austin and an Albert lea in MN. The headquarters/main plant is in Austin.

I've got a fair amount of family members that have worked for them and all of them regularly eat the products.

On to the Vegemite: I ate this a few times as a kid (in the midwest if you beleive it) with a friend who's family spent considerable time overseas. I hated the first bite but then liked it. We ate it on plain toast but I'm sure we could have done better. I'm thinking about revisiting but would like some suggestions to optimize flavor. What do you recommend spreading it on?

Heimdhal 11-26-2008 02:30 PM

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i just tried Spam for the very first time. Bought a small tin the other day for that purpose and today I fullfilled it!

It was actualy not as bad as one would think. To me it tasted exactly how I thought it would taste, very salty, pork mush. I fried it up in a pan, havent tried it "raw".

HOWEVER, that said, since I have the ability to(and do) can my own things, I think ill stick with canning my own meats and sausages(which im making about 5 pounds tonight for thanksgiving and making chicken a la king for canning). But now I know that if I HAD to eat spam, I could and actualy enjoy it at that.

As far as canned meats go though, its still a very good option as it only cost about a buck for a 10 oz can(around here anyways). So ill probably stock up a few cans for just in case, try to use it in different dishes like mac and cheese, or brocoli/veggie dishes.

JoBob 11-26-2008 05:04 PM

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I've been a vegetarian for over 35 years and here i am reading about Spam! I don't miss meat and the idea of eating it is repulsive to me after the long abstinence.

HOWEVER...I miss Spam! That was my favorite meat thingie in my childhood. Mom would fry it and put scrambled eggs on top and it made the best breakfasts I ever had. I still remember the wonderful, rich taste after a pile of years.

It's torture to have a developing obsession! Spam, of all things!

jamesfrancisco 11-26-2008 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Codger (Post 1436478)
I don't mean to nitpick but there is no Austin Lea plant in MN or for that matter an Austin Lea. There is an Austin and an Albert lea in MN. The headquarters/main plant is in Austin.

I've got a fair amount of family members that have worked for them and all of them regularly eat the products.

On to the Vegemite: I ate this a few times as a kid (in the midwest if you beleive it) with a friend who's family spent considerable time overseas. I hated the first bite but then liked it. We ate it on plain toast but I'm sure we could have done better. I'm thinking about revisiting but would like some suggestions to optimize flavor. What do you recommend spreading it on?


Marmite is better! A skim of marmite on toast with peanut butter on top.

Olmstein 12-08-2008 02:55 PM

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If there's a Smart and Final near you, they have 6 packs of Spam on sale for under $14.

7th trump 12-08-2008 04:14 PM

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I tried the turkey spam and was actually surprised from the taste. Not anything I was expecting after tasting regular spam.
It is actually pretty good besides the after taste, but after frying some and adding tomatoe, lettuce, onion and some mayo on toast its not far from a turkey bacon BLT without the spamish after taste.
I loaded up on the turkey for a dollar a can cause thats what was left on the Walmart shelf. Now it cant be found on the shelf.
Go with the turkey spam, seriously! If you can find it.

jamesfrancisco 12-08-2008 04:25 PM

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A cold corned beef sandwich I might eat at gunpoint. But a fried corned beef hash, with a fried egg on top - breakfast foodgasm.

thrifty_bob 12-08-2008 09:15 PM

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I make my own corned beef out of lean roasts I buy when they go on sale. I always make too much, but there are almost never any leftovers. The few times there are, they are gone by lunchtime the next day.

Canned ham is good, too. Given that either is the same price as spam, I can't imagine why people buy the spam.

immanti 12-08-2008 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mike77777 (Post 969929)
lived on crisco and pilot bread for a coupla months in the 70s, had an eskimo wife, we lived in kipnuk village western alaska. supplemented diet with ducks, fish, and wild grass grains. follow the mice to their stash and raid it. berries were good too. crisco and berries made eskimo ice cream. seal oil was an acquired taste, helped to moisten the dreid salmon and reindeer. good hi calorie eating!

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Originally Posted by Riskfactor (Post 970118)
LOL!! this is actually very good advice for last-ditch efforts. excellent!

"Follow the mice to their stash and raid it".

Now THAT is a serious survivor!

What did you usually find? Did the mice ever put up a fight?

I think I'd rather eat them than their stash... then again, their stash might be a "renewable resrource"...



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Squirrel Bait 02-03-2009 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Squirrel Bait (Post 1434371)
Maybe I'll sneek some into the kids scrambled eggs. See if they notice. It'll get 'em used to it too. yum yum!!! :bull-smile:

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Hey,,,, for anybody that cares,,,, I finally tried the generic spam at Wallyworld. Guess what, It does taste like the real spam.....Even fed it to the kids in their eggs,,,,,,,AND THEY LIKED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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californiajeff 02-18-2009 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Argent Dragon (Post 969856)
Anyone stocking 'SPAM' in their preps ?

http://www.candacegustine.com/blogimages/spam.jpg

Hell no! I wouldn't eat the sh!t if you payed me. I have nightmares from eating it when I was a kid and can't stand the taste of it. I also have something against mystery meat in the can.

As for stocking other meats like Tuna and Sardines, I am currently doing it as cash permits. I also grab an occasional can of corned beef hash which is good on it's own or with eggs.

From a nutritional standpoint, ham is probably one of the least nutritional meats you can eat so I rarely eat it. Alternatives such as Tuna pack more protein and have less fat.

beercritic 02-18-2009 10:19 PM

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Ina SHTF situation Fat is hard to come by.


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